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May 2016 crime author of the month interview with Mary Paulson Ellis 


1. How did you get started writing

I started by going to an evening class – 15 years ago now. I didn’t last very long because after about week 4 we had to hand in homework and I never seemed to be able to complete it. But the year after that I tried again and this time I went to every class for a year, completed all the assignments and discovered that it was possible to start a story and get to the end of it. After that there was no stopping me.

2. What drew you to write a crime novel
I didn’t see myself as writing a crime novel when I first started, The Other Mrs Walker. But at the same time I knew it had the hallmarks of a lot of crime fiction i.e. it starts with a dead body, it has a mystery to solve, it weaves in and out of crematoriums and mortuaries etc. I wanted to explore what happens when someone dies alone with no apparent next-of-kin. Then I got interested in the dead person and who they might have been. In the end I decided it was a sort of detective novel which is also a family mystery. I’m certainly drawn to what I call the ‘murderous’ side of family life – the dark places in the past where terrible things have happened. I really like that this too can fall under the all encompassing genre of ‘crime’.

3. Which writers past or present have influenced your style of writing?
In terms of what I am writing at the moment I am very influenced by the brilliant Kate Atkinson. I’ve followed her career ever since, Behind the Scenes at the Museum and I delight in her Jackson Brodie novels which began with, Case Histories. She has this amazing lightness of touch, very accessible and stuffed full of wit, character and story. And yet at the same time she is super clever as a writer, on both a technical and a thematic level. I’m always amazed by the emotional weight that her stories carry.

4. When you first started writing did you find it hard to get publisher interest?
Yes! Don’t all writers (well 99.9%). Over ten years or so I was lucky enough to get a few small things published online and in various magazines (short stories etc) and every one mattered because it was a little beacon in amongst the mass of rejections. Then I wrote a novel which took me six years to complete. This did get some attention from agents and publishers and I really thought it was going to be picked up, but it wasn’t. So I did have a moment about four years ago when I had to decide if I was going to keep going or prioritise other things in my life. I decided to give up my job and write another book which became, The Other Mrs Walker. The rest is history. There is no real rhyme or reason to these things, just each writer’s individual journey.

5. There are many interesting characters in your Novel,do you have a particular favourite one?
When I was writing the book, Clementine was my favourite character. She first appears in 1929 as a four year old and progresses from there into some very dark places where she does some very bad things. As a result, I really loved her! Then once I got to edit stage I became much more interested in Margaret Penny, my contemporary protagonist who is trying to work out the story of the dead woman with whom the book opens. But now I think I like Margaret’s mother, Barbara, best. She is an old curmudgeon who is either drinking rum or refusing to answer any questions. She is my tragic heroine.

6. What kind of research have you have to undertake for your Novel
I did quite a lot of research into what I call the ‘territory of the dead’ i.e. the people and places in Edinburgh that deal with cases of individuals who die with no next-of-kin. I thought I would begin with the person who forces the door after the call from the concerned neighbour, but in fact I began at the other end with a Humanist Celebrant who has conducted funerals for such individuals. I then moved on to the local authority crematorium where they arrange and pay for ‘indigent’ funerals and after that the Edinburgh City Mortuary, which was fascinating. I chatted to a forensic pathologist about the various stages of decomposition and met a Procurator Fiscal (Crown Official) who worked for the Fatalities Investigation Unit. Finally I interviewed a couple of police officers who were part of the Edinburgh Enquiry Team at that time – the unit that dealt with all non-suspicious deaths in the city. It’s been a fascinating journey. I have massive respect for all those for whom death is very much an everyday part of what they do. The rest of us don’t want to contemplate this too often, but it is going on all the time, all around us, day and night. I think it is wonderful that however we die, in whatever circumstances, somebody somewhere will take care of us with integrity and professionalism, even compassion.

7. Are the characters in your books based on any real life?
No, with one exception. There is a real life minister in Edinburgh who invites members of his congregation to attend funerals at which he isn’t certain any relatives or friends of the deceased will appear. I heard him speak on the radio about this when I was first writing the book and so I popped a minister into the book who runs an indigent funeral rota in Edinburgh. I met the person behind the fictional creation a few weeks ago when we appeared together on another radio show – a fascinating and insightful man. Other than that, I did try to realise the city of Edinburgh as a sort of ‘character’ in itself, based on my 25 years of living here. Also the house in London in which the Walker family grow up is based on one my mother lived in as a child in the 1940s and 50s and which I remember her talking about when I was young too.

8. What do you think makes your novels stand out from all the other Crime Fiction Novels out there
It starts with a dead body but no suspicious circumstances. It has a detective who isn’t really a detective at all. The scene of the ‘crime’ is an empty flat and the only evidence an emerald dress, an orange and a Brazil nut with the Ten Commandments etched in its shell. The real crimes lie in the past, but nobody is punished for them, at least not in the conventional way. What matters is how the deeds (and objects) of the past ripple through into the present whether you understand their significance or not.

9. Do you see any of your characters personality in yourself and vice versa?
Not particularly, but then perhaps you’re asking the wrong person. Sometimes it is easier for others to identify where the autobiographical elements creep in! There is a degree of wish fulfillment in some of my characters, however, in that I sometimes wish I could behave as badly in real life as I have them behave in the fictional world.

10. If you can, would you give us a sneaky peak into any future novels you have planned.
The Other Mrs Walker is all about women and girls. The book I’m working on at the moment is all about men and boys. It too has a narrative set in Edinburgh that also dips into the past. I see it as a companion piece to the current book.

11. In the Other Mrs Walker do you have a favourite scene that you wrote and why?
I loved writing the scenes set in the past which revolve around the house in London. I had a great time conjuring all its different incarnations, from the shelter dug into the lawn in 1944 to the Home for Troublesome Girls in the 1960s. I also liked writing the scene of Margaret at the city mortuary because I found it such an evocative place when I went to visit. But I think my favourite scene to write was the one set in London in 1933 when 8 year old Clementine lays out a little picnic for her twin brother and sister beneath the laburnum tree. It has a sort of Grimm’s fairy tale quality for me and if you read it you’ll understand why.

12. As a up and coming crime writer do you have words of advice you can share
Return over and over to those writers who inspire you to see how they do it. But also be confident in your own distinct vision and ideas. Also, never give up and don’t take rejection personally; none of us know what might happen in the future. It only takes one person in the right place at the right time to believe in your book for all sorts of things to happen. And, good luck!

Somehow she’d always known that she would end like this. In a small square room, in a small square flat. In a small square box, perhaps. Cardboard, with a sticker on the outside. And a name . . .

In a freezing, desolate Edinburgh flat an old woman takes her last breath surrounded by the few objects she has accrued over a lifetime: an emerald dress, a brazil nut engraved with the ten commandments – and six orange pips sucked dry.
Meanwhile, guided by the flip of a coin, Margaret Penny arrives back at her old family home, escaping a life in London recently turned to ash. Faced with relying on a resentful mother she has never really known, Margaret soon finds herself employed by the Office for Lost People, tasked with finding the families of the dead: the neglected, the abandoned, the lost. Her instructions are to uncover paperwork, yet the only thing Mrs Walker, the old woman in her current case, left behind is a series of peculiar objects.

But in the end it is these objects that will unravel Mrs Walker’s real story: a story rooted in the London grime and moving from the 1930s to the present day, a story of children abandoned and lost, of beguiling sisters and misplaced mothers, of deception and thievery, family secrets and the very deepest of betrayals; in which the extraordinary circular nature of life will glitter from the page. For in uncovering the astonishing tale of an old woman who died alone, Margaret will finally discover her own story too . . .

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